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Post  ChrisF on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:56 pm

I am having my system looked at as part of the leak mentioned previosly, and my wife (she was in when the repair man visited) was told by the repair man he 'thought Gledhill had ceased trading'.

Can anybody confim/refute/give more info on this

Thanks Chris

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Post  Midland Boilercare on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:07 am

Hi Chris

The answer is both yes and no!
Gledhill was trading as two individual companies, Gledhill Building Products and Gledhil Water Storage.
The Boilermate/Pulsacoil etc were made under the Water Storage Section, and this went into administration last year. However, a chunk of the company was taken over by Gledhill Building Products and they are still manufacturing units under this new banner.
Two new companies called Gledhill Response and Gledhill Spares have risen from the ashes of Gledhill Water Products. Gledhill Response is purely a breakdown company now, whilst Gledhill Spares simply supplies spares to engineers like ourselves and parts companies.

Hope this answers your question.

I do remember the water leak you refer to. I take it that the problem was not your shower after all but the unit?
Just a quick check in case your insurers plumber has got it wrong, if the Boilermate itself is leacking, there is usually evidence within the casing that can be seen. The copper section is enclosed with a steel sheet and the internal space is then filled with polyurethane foam. There are a number of small holes in the steel plate and water stains can usually be seen from these when the unit leaks.
Most insurance companies will cover the cost of repairing the damage caused by a water leak, but not the cost of rectifying the water leak!!

If the unit does require replacing, Gledhill have produced the Boilermate BP which is almost a replica of the old Boilermate 2 (a very simple and reliable unit without all the electronic gadgetry incorporated in the Boilermate 2000).

If you're in my area I could give you/your insurers a competitive quote for the work.

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Post  ChrisF on Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:00 pm

Dave,

Thanks for that, I am still waiting for the engineer to come back with a solution, do you think that going for the 'old fashioned' Boilermate BP is a worthwhile option (I am in south Lincilnshire and have concerns about scaling of the coil) or is going to a 'conventional' hot water cylinder system a better choice.
I think that a new combi boiler is going to be suggested but I am not interested in that as my current boiler is ok and only 6 years old.

The evidence of the leak is a large wet rusty 'scab' at the bottom of the steel casing where the seam is on the back of the unit, I am guessing that this is pretty terminal, especialy as I suspect my heat ex is also scaled up

any thought appreciated
thanks Again

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Post  Midland Boilercare on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:45 am

Hi Chris

I'm afraid your unit is destined for the great scrapyard in the sky!
As for the replacement, here are some pointers (sorry if they seem a bit technical but I've kept it quite basic really);
1] a combination boiler would not give you anywhere near the water flow-rate (the volume of water that comes through your tap) that you have at present, and I would advise that you avoid this option. I can give you this advice completely unbiased as I have worked for combination boiler manufacturers over the years (in roles from Technical Engineer to UK Technical Manager). Based on a flow rate of 22Ltr/min and a temperature rise of 40deg C a combination boiler would have to have an output of 61.36kW - and this beast does not exist for the domestic market.
2] a "conventional" cylinder delivers water at a pressure equal to the height difference between the base of the header tank and the tap outlet. Assuming you have a standard house, the maximum pressure you would develope at the downstairs taps would be approx 0.6bar, and the upstairs taps approx 0.2bar, if you have a shower upstairs it would be allowing water out at a trickle at best. There is also the problem of differential pressures at mixer taps etc, and the fact that some high pressure taps won't work belo 0.5bar. An "unvented cylinder" would be the type that would be required.
3] an "unvented cylinder" comes under the Building Regulations G3 (regulation G section 3) and can only be installed by someone holding the required certification to prove competence in these units. There are specific safety issues with regard to the route and location of safety discharge pipework, also specific safety control valve arrangements.

Taking all this into account a replacement Gledhill would be the most sensible solution. In addition to the Boilermate BP, Gledhill did have a Boilermate A-Class OV version which was developed as a direct replacement for the Boilermate 2000, but I don't know if they have any of those left.
As for the scaling issue, an anti scale device can be installed on the cold water inlet to the unit (whichever one you have) and this should reduce the likelyhood of scaling (although it won't stop it completely). Even if the heat exchanger does become scaled, it can be descaled relatively easily.

I do cover the bottom area of Lincs for replacements just in case you have no joy.

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